March 12, 2024
In Touring 'The Cher Show.' Tyler Pirrung Plays Superstar's Go-to Costume Designer Bob Mackie
Kilian Melloy READ TIME: 8 MIN.
EDGE: You're playing Cher costumer Bob Mackie, who also designed the costumes for "The Cher Show." Did you have a chance to meet and talk with him?
Tyler Pirrung: [When] we did [the show] in Palm Desert, Bob Mackie came to see the show. He lives there. It was very, very scary, because we are using the Broadway costume package which Bob Mackie designed for which he won the Tony. He was integral to the project from the beginning. He came and saw the show, and we got to meet him afterwards. I was like, "Oh God! I have to really be on it today." [It's] scary that the person you're playing is out there watching you. It's very strange, but a very cool experience.
EDGE: What is it like to be portraying a real and living person?
Tyler Pirrung: It's interesting. I can't even tell you how many hours I spent watching interviews of Bob Mackie and little documentary videos and everything about him, just so I could understand how he is as a person. Obviously, playing a real person you don't want to go out there and be completely different than how they are and how people know them to be, and you don't want to do anything that's going to offend them or make them look a fool. So, it was definitely intimidating at first, but because he was involved in the original production, I found it easier not to be so nervous. He has seen the show and been working with the show from the beginning, so he knows how he's being portrayed. I think that makes it a little easier for me to play him.
EDGE: You also play [film director] Robert Altman. Did you feel like you needed to do the same kind of research to play him?
Tyler Pirrung: No, because I'm Robert Altman for maybe three minutes. It's just one scene in the second act of the show. There are interviews with him and everything, but it was kind of just like, stick to the words in the script and try and be a believable human being, and come from a place of where he was in his life and his career. It's actually one of my favorite scenes to do. It's just me and Morgan Scott, who plays our Star. It's a really different scene than the rest of the show. It feels very different, very simple, and just a nice, sensitive scene.
EDGE: You also play a character called Frank. What can you tell me about him?
Tyler Pirrung: Frank is a representation of misogynistic men in the TV and film industry that Cher was fighting against. He's always pushing her aside and not really wanting to hear her opinions. He wants her to stand where she's supposed to stand, look pretty, make it be all about the clothes, and go home. He doesn't really jibe with the fact that Cher's a woman trying to take charge of her own show and create a vision. He's a bit of an asshole. But he's not a real; he's the only one I play that's not a real person.
EDGE: As you mentioned, you're using the same costumes as the Broadway production. What costumes are your favorites, whether you're wearing them or other people are wearing them?
Tyler Pirrung: Oh my gosh, there's so many. Anytime I'm on stage as Bob Mackie, I'm in a turtleneck and a blazer. It's very, very '70s. There are so many of Cher's iconic looks in the show. There's a number called "Ain't Nobody's Business." It's the introduction of Bob Mackie in the show, and it's kind of like a giant fashion show of a ton of Bob Mackie costumes. Every single one of those that the women wear are my favorites. I mean, they're all just fabulous and stunning, walking works of art. The number stops the show every single night – audiences lose their mind for it, because it's such a feast for the eyes.
EDGE: Bob doesn't have a solo, but if he did, what songs or songs from the Cher catalogue would you want for him?
Tyler Pirrung: "Believe." I feel like I've known that song my entire life, so I would probably go with that one.
EDGE: Are you looking forward to being in Boston, in particular?
Tyler Pirrung: Yeah, I am. I have a couple of friends from college and other jobs I've worked over the years that live in Boston, and I have some cousins that live there and are coming to see the show. They are gonna love it!
"The Cher Show" plays at the Boch Center in Boston on March 15, 16, and 17. For more information about Tyler Pirrung, check out his website. Learn more about the touring production of "The Cher Show" here. For tickets to see the show at the Boch Center, follow this link.
Kilian Melloy serves as EDGE Media Network's Associate Arts Editor and Staff Contributor. His professional memberships include the National Lesbian & Gay Journalists Association, the Boston Online Film Critics Association, The Gay and Lesbian Entertainment Critics Association, and the Boston Theater Critics Association's Elliot Norton Awards Committee.